What Ever Happened To Holiness?

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The word is often equated with piousness. It was suggested to me that I "needed to take my piousness, waaaay down". (This was the same person who suggested I leave the Church.)
When I asked how I was expressing piousness, I was told not to hold out my arms to receive an altar cloth during the stripping of the altar on Good Friday.
During seminary at SFD holding ones hands together in prayer with fingers pointed to heavens was "being pretentious" and should be reserved for only formal Celebrations, like the Cathedral.
Oh, well. I'm working these little things out, I know, slowly.
All I can say is that I am expressive in every way even in the expression of the holiness of living in concert with God.
Adaline,

They seem like different things to me...piety and holiness. Piety has to do with the way one expresses one's devotion to God. As per the person who told you to leave the church....why should they care? Some people cross themselves, others bow at the name of Jesus, still others kiss the Altar or reverence the Sacrament...all acts of piety neither right nor wrong, ancient in tradition and a matter of personal expression.

As a young person in the church I used to get annoyed at a prominent person at my home parish of St. Mary's, Lompoc. She used to drive me nuts with her piety. But then, one day, God showed me that the problem was not with her, but with me! I believe the same holds true with the person who accused you of being "pretentious." Somewhere deep in your soul, you know when you are being pretentious and when your being pious. Holiness on the other hand is fleshed out in all that we do and all that we say.

Holiness is a great topic and something we should definitely aspire too.

Yep, I think it's a great topic too. If I were to add anything to the article it would be this: Holiness is not something that we get to decide about for ourselves. Rather holiness is that Christ-like quality that others see in us.
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OK...now I am starting to wonder about this whole VOX thing...I wrote 3 paragraphs and you see 1 sentence.
I wish I knew what else you wrote!
Beth,
I think it has to do with checking off the [this is good] box. It may signal a quick answer. Vox can have its glitches. See the Help-Comments section.

Adaline

Thanks for the tip. I checked "this is good" because I thought what Ron wrote was great. :-)

You probably did not miss much. I babbled on about how some of us need liturgy and piety to create a box for the unfathomable, all of which you have probably heard before. I did manage to hit on the sense of holiness being how others perceive us - in that while we can aspire to holiness we probably never think we are there because when I think of people I know who I would attribute this to I am quite sure they would not think it of themselves and not in a self depracating way. I also went on about how I think that holiness is what I think we should all at St. Clare's be aspiring to and I think that is behind my rather clumsy efforts to state this such as my country club remarks. (Which reminds me of something else entirely about fund raising as a seperate entity but I won't go there now.)

Holiness would not only make great sermon material but also a great night over a couple bottles of wine. I could be game for making a Cape Cod meal soon to start us going.

A Cape Cod meal (Wow!), a few bottles of wine and a conversation on holiness? Count me in!

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